Comments on: Gerhart for the Heisman…really? http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/ Tim Tebow for The 2009 HE15MAN Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:17:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bruce http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-226 Bruce Wed, 19 May 2010 17:34:47 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-226 If a team puts the entire offense in one player's hands, can they get held to 82 yards and lose to a 5-7 team with the 81st ranked rush defense? I repeat - I love the kid. Just the fact that he is excelling at freaking Stanford...seriously gives me chills. I'm not generally considered a dummy, but I'd give (some body part) to go to Stanford. But 10th in YPC for the conference behind his own QB? Help me get past that. Tebow gets about 1 yard less per carry (including his sacks) and everyone knows - he's just a lowly fullback that throws the ball once in a while. If a team puts the entire offense in one player’s hands, can they get held to 82 yards and lose to a 5-7 team with the 81st ranked rush defense? I repeat – I love the kid. Just the fact that he is excelling at freaking Stanford…seriously gives me chills. I’m not generally considered a dummy, but I’d give (some body part) to go to Stanford.

But 10th in YPC for the conference behind his own QB? Help me get past that. Tebow gets about 1 yard less per carry (including his sacks) and everyone knows – he’s just a lowly fullback that throws the ball once in a while.

]]> By: Guilf http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Guilf Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:41:20 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-107 I'll be honest, I've seen next to nothing of his season and I'm bummed about it. I live in Tampa and we just don't get many of the games. Looking very forward to watching the Big 12 Championship to see a whole game of that beast. I agree that it's a shame that defensive players are given last consideration. I'm a defensive minded man myself. Was going to include him, but other than stats - have little opinion. Also know in reality he's destined to a bunch of third place (at best) votes. I'll be honest, I've seen next to nothing of his season and I'm bummed about it. I live in Tampa and we just don't get many of the games. Looking very forward to watching the Big 12 Championship to see a whole game of that beast. I agree that it's a shame that defensive players are given last consideration. I'm a defensive minded man myself.

Was going to include him, but other than stats – have little opinion. Also know in reality he's destined to a bunch of third place (at best) votes.

]]> By: Guilf http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Guilf Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:30:55 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-105 I just smacked Mandel down if you watched the whole exchange. LOL. Kidding. I was a little star-struck, I'll admit. I read his stuff every week. I'm just some schlub with a little blog. Tebow has scored more points than any of the candidates against the toughest batch of defenses. I just smacked Mandel down if you watched the whole exchange. LOL. Kidding. I was a little star-struck, I'll admit. I read his stuff every week. I'm just some schlub with a little blog.

Tebow has scored more points than any of the candidates against the toughest batch of defenses.

]]> By: Guilf http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Guilf Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-106 If a team puts the entire offense in one player's hands, can they get held to 82 yards and lose to a 5-7 team with the 81st ranked rush defense? I repeat - I love the kid. Just the fact that he is excelling at freaking Stanford...seriously gives me chills. I'm not generally considered a dummy, but I'd give (some body part) to go to Stanford. But 10th in YPC for the conference behind his own QB? Help me get past that. Tebow gets about 1 yard less per carry (including his sacks) and everyone knows - he's just a lowly fullback that throws the ball once in a while. If a team puts the entire offense in one player's hands, can they get held to 82 yards and lose to a 5-7 team with the 81st ranked rush defense? I repeat – I love the kid. Just the fact that he is excelling at freaking Stanford…seriously gives me chills. I'm not generally considered a dummy, but I'd give (some body part) to go to Stanford.

But 10th in YPC for the conference behind his own QB? Help me get past that. Tebow gets about 1 yard less per carry (including his sacks) and everyone knows – he's just a lowly fullback that throws the ball once in a while.

]]> By: Joe http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Joe Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:08:41 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-104 SUUUUUUHHHHHH!!!!! It should be a crime for a DT to make an impact on a game like he does. You want a leader? A game changer? Defense wins championships. Too bad the Heisman doesn't care about the best player in college football anymore. SUUUUUUHHHHHH!!!!! It should be a crime for a DT to make an impact on a game like he does. You want a leader? A game changer? Defense wins championships. Too bad the Heisman doesn't care about the best player in college football anymore.

]]> By: DannyAdelante http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-102 DannyAdelante Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:00:31 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-102 Gerhart deserves the Heisman. He's a beast and has produced week after week. He's not been shut down once this season. Whereas McCoy had a stinker against his biggest rival, Oklahoma, Florida beat Mississippi State and LSU in spite of Tebow andIngram was shut down against Auburn. Tebow and McCoy are ony challenging for the award because they were all the rage back in August, and people can't make decisions without referring to season preview magazines. McCoy has had a good second half of the season. He did nothing to impress me before November. Tebow had one Heisman caliber game, against FSU. Lastly, the Heisman is an individual award. If Florida or Texas had Stanford's defense they would have lost several times this season. The players are off the field for half the game, so judge them when they're actually on the field. Gerhart's offense put up 50+ points on USC and Oregon. Tebow's Florida scored 13 against LSU. If team record mattered as much as you wish it did, then where was Matt Mauck, Craig Krenzel, or Matt Flynn's Heisman hype? Gerhart deserves the Heisman. He's a beast and has produced week after week. He's not been shut down once this season. Whereas McCoy had a stinker against his biggest rival, Oklahoma, Florida beat Mississippi State and LSU in spite of Tebow andIngram was shut down against Auburn.
Tebow and McCoy are ony challenging for the award because they were all the rage back in August, and people can't make decisions without referring to season preview magazines.
McCoy has had a good second half of the season. He did nothing to impress me before November.
Tebow had one Heisman caliber game, against FSU.

Lastly, the Heisman is an individual award. If Florida or Texas had Stanford's defense they would have lost several times this season. The players are off the field for half the game, so judge them when they're actually on the field.
Gerhart's offense put up 50+ points on USC and Oregon. Tebow's Florida scored 13 against LSU. If team record mattered as much as you wish it did, then where was Matt Mauck, Craig Krenzel, or Matt Flynn's Heisman hype?

]]> By: William http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-100 William Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:53:58 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-100 I hate to defend Tebow, but he did win it in a Big down year for cfb. There was no one out there more deserving. I hate to defend Tebow, but he did win it in a Big down year for cfb. There was no one out there more deserving.

]]> By: jsss http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-97 jsss Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:48:28 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-97 "Is everyone just looking at total yards and total touchdowns wetting their pants or something?" to be fair, this is pretty much exactly why tim tebow won the heisman "Is everyone just looking at total yards and total touchdowns wetting their pants or something?"

to be fair, this is pretty much exactly why tim tebow won the heisman

]]> By: BMc http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-98 BMc Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:48:03 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-98 As a nationally known columnist pointed out, Tebow has thrown for few yards and TDs than 16 of the top 20-rated QBs As a nationally known columnist pointed out, Tebow has thrown for few yards and TDs than 16 of the top 20-rated QBs

]]> By: William http://www.he15man.net/2009/12/02/gerhart-for-the-heisman-really/comment-page-1/#comment-94 William Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:33:50 +0000 http://www.he15man.net/?p=277#comment-94 The west coast needs a heisman candidate (albeit an irrelevant one) Don't worry Guilf, he has zero shot of finishing ahead of either McCoy or Tebow. (the only two REAL candidates IMO. Especially after both Texas/Florida win this wkend) The west coast needs a heisman candidate (albeit an irrelevant one)

Don't worry Guilf, he has zero shot of finishing ahead of either McCoy or Tebow. (the only two REAL candidates IMO. Especially after both Texas/Florida win this wkend)

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